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Advaita Vedanta vs Meijer’s Universal Knowledge Field
Advaita Vedanta Idealism (Indian Cosmic Consciousness) and Meijer’s Universal Knowledge Field, compared field by field from their entries in the Atlas.
At a glance
- Both belong to the Idealism family in Kuhn's Landscape of Consciousness.
- Both treat consciousness as fundamental.
- They give the same kind of answer on life after death and meaning and purpose.
- On AI consciousness, Advaita Vedanta says “Conditional” and Meijer’s Universal Knowledge Field says “Likely”.
- On mind uploading, Advaita Vedanta says “Not needed” and Meijer’s Universal Knowledge Field says “Likely”.
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Idealism
Advaita Vedanta Idealism (Indian Cosmic Consciousness)
Swami Vivekananda, Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, Sri Aurobindo …
The claim
In brief
Advaita VedantaThis theory posits that consciousness is the singular, nondual fundamental reality (Brahman) that constitutes all existence. Individual human consciousness is ultimately non-different from this pervasive Cosmic Consciousness, which generates first-person inner experiences (qualia). The physical world, including the body-mind complex, is considered derivative or illusionary.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldThis theory posits that consciousness exists within a Universal Knowledge Field (UKF), conceived as a collective storage of all information present and evolving in the universe. The UKF is consistent with fundamental physics and cosmological models, and human consciousness is understood as an integral part of this universal consciousness, which interfaces with the brain primarily through harmonic resonance patterns involving specific electromagnetic field frequencies.
What consciousness is
Advaita VedantaConsciousness (Brahman/Cit) is the one nondual reality. Individual consciousness is identified as the all-pervading Cosmic Consciousness expressing itself through the body-mind complex.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldConsciousness is identified as a Universal Knowledge Field (UKF) that stores and evolves all information in the universe, of which human consciousness is an integral part.
Big questions
Can AI be conscious?Differ
Advaita VedantaConditionalIf consciousness is fundamental and pervasive throughout reality, then artificial systems could potentially instantiate or participate in cosmic consciousness, provided they meet the structural/complexity requirements for manifestation, though some idealists reject conscious AI based on current computer models.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldLikelySince consciousness is fundamental (Idealism) and relies on informational/field properties, advanced AI systems capable of achieving the necessary complexity and interacting with the UKF could likely achieve consciousness, though this is not strictly proven by the sources.
Does consciousness survive death?Both agree
Advaita VedantaYesSurvival is a fundamental doctrine in Indian traditions (e.g., reincarnation). However, survival often means the eventual loss of current first-person awareness as consciousness is re-absorbed into the ultimate Cosmic Consciousness.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldYesAs consciousness is fundamental reality (UKF), individual consciousness (soul/spirit) is an integral part of this ultimate consciousness, persisting beyond the dissolution of the biological body/brain.
Advaita VedantaNot neededIf consciousness is already fundamental and eternal (Idealism), traditional concepts of survival or eternal life are already theoretically available, making technological virtual immortality moot.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldLikelyGiven that consciousness is a permanent informational field (UKF) that the brain interfaces with, duplicating the informational structure and function of the 'holofractal memory workspace' could allow the specific individual consciousness pattern to be maintained in a non-biological substrate.
Does it give life meaning?Both agree
Advaita VedantaCosmic/UltimateBy positing consciousness as the ground of all being and ultimate reality, the theory inherently provides cosmic meaning and purpose. Evolutionary Idealist views also see the evolution of consciousness as a primary feature of world meaning.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldCosmic/UltimateConsciousness (UKF) is the ground of all being and the organizing principle of the universe, suggesting inherent cosmic meaning and purpose.
Nature of mind
Ontology
Advaita VedantaIdealism (Ontological Idealism/Nondualism).
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldIdealism (Consciousness/Mind is fundamental reality)
Mind and body
Advaita VedantaThe mind and physical world are derivative or illusionary manifestations of the fundamental consciousness. The consciousness shines through the body-mind complex, but is not the body or mind itself.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldConsciousness (a scale-invariant mental attribute of reality) is fundamentally non-physical and operates through a holofractal memory workspace associated with the brain (pilot-wave-guided supervenience).
Fundamental or emergent
Advaita VedantaPrimitive (Fundamental). Consciousness is defined as the singular fundamental existent.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldPrimitive
Qualia
Advaita VedantaQualia (first-person inner experiences) are generated by the all-pervading cosmic consciousness. Experience is categorized into intransitive awareness (pure consciousness, devoid of content) and transitive awareness (phenomenal consciousness, which is a reflection or semblance of real consciousness).
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldThe origin of qualia is hypothesized to arise from the field-receptive holofractal memory workspace, which functions as a scale-invariant mental attribute of reality associated with the brain.
How it works
Mechanism
Advaita VedantaNon-duality, where the infinite, ultimate consciousness limits or expresses itself in manifold, seemingly diverse forms to create individual subjects of experience.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldConsciousness arises from the non-physical Universal Knowledge Field interfacing with biological systems via harmonic resonance patterns (tonal projections) and integral information processing.
Where it is
Advaita VedantaOmnipresent and pervasive throughout reality. Consciousness is universalized as Soul.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldUniversal (UKF stores all information in the universe). Locally, it is associated with a 'holofractal memory workspace' associated with the brain, which mirrors this cosmic connectivity.
What it does
Advaita VedantaConsciousness is the ultimate source and ground of all being. It governs causation and creates energy and matter. The existence of consciousness is its own explanation, needing no outside cause.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldThe UKF/Consciousness organizes and guides synchronicity, both spatially and temporally, in essential organs such as the heart and brain, acting as a organizing field.
Evidence and criticism
Testability
Advaita VedantaSpeculative/Conceptual/Spiritual. The theory focuses on ultimate ontological reality, which is not typically subject to the scientific method.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldArguably empirically testable through investigating the specific effects of electromagnetic field frequency patterns in animate and non-animate systems.
Tests so far
Advaita VedantaNot stated
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldInvestigating the effects of discrete electromagnetic field frequency patterns on animate and non-animate systems (to verify harmonic resonance patterns).
Criticisms
Advaita VedantaCriticized for being anti-physicalist and relying on religious tradition. It faces the challenge of explaining how the physical world emerges or is derived from fundamental consciousness, an odd idea alien to common life experiences. It is contrasted with other Indian schools like GV Vedanta, which has differences regarding the ontological reality of matter and individual selves.
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge FieldThe reliance on a fundamental non-physical Universal Knowledge Field and the explicit incorporation of transcendental human experience and psi phenomena lead to significant tension with conventional physicalism.
Sources
Key sources
Advaita Vedanta
- Consciousness and self in Advaita Vedanta, Swami Sarvapriyananda (2020)
- The Nature of the Human Person (Part 2), Swami Sarvapriyananda (2023)
- How consciousness becomes the physical universe, Kafatos, Tanzi, Chopra (2011)
Meijer’s Universal Knowledge Field
- Universal consciousness: collective evidence on the basis of current physics and philosophy of mind. Part 1 (2018)
- Consciousness in the universe is tuned by a musical master code, Part 3: a hydrodynamic superfluid quantum space guides a conformal mental attribute of reality (2020)
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